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Re: Help us show Nintendo that Klonoa in SSB4 would fit perfectly
« Reply #50 on: August 05, 2014, 05:25:36 pm »
That screen shot is definitely a Brawl hack.  A few years ago there was a project to make Klonoa a playable character.  They made enough progress that he was mostly functional, but there were some major issues and I don't believe there wasn't a way to work around them at the time.  So, the team moved on and the project died.  More recently though, one person provided models imported from the wiimake as an alternative for the custom model (I think it was custom) that was made for the project.  Also, Wiley's Castle has been available as a custom stage for months.

I know we've already come to the conclusion that the Falco pic is fake, but it's worth mentioning that it's Brawl too.  Rim-lighting is one of the Vault's current fads because of the hype train and literally everyone is doing it.  Basically anything that's been announced for SSB4 is available as a hack.  Seriously, if there's a rumour they're working on it.  They had Palutena available the day she was announced.
If this was from a Brawl hack, the model would look EXACTLY like the model in the Wiimake that's used when he has the zipper shirt. Plus, the background I the shot clearly resembles SSB4's Wily's castle.
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Re: Help us show Nintendo that Klonoa in SSB4 would fit perfectly
« Reply #51 on: August 05, 2014, 10:44:11 pm »
Anybody remember the thread I made about the cloud hint? Good times. ^_^

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Re: Help us show Nintendo that Klonoa in SSB4 would fit perfectly
« Reply #52 on: August 07, 2014, 05:15:18 am »
Okay, I'm going to take back what I said earlier since I tried the moveset again today and the problems with it make it unlikely that this could be that hack.  I also checked out the animations in BrawlBox and didn't see the one from the screenshot, but there were a lot that didn't show up properly.  I suppose it's worth noting that the pose is similar to one of the promotional pictures for the wiimake.  I'm going to go with YDK and say that it's shopped.  I resized the pic we have so that it lined up with this one of the FD variant of the stage that I got off the wiki:
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And that resulted in this:
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Now, I couldn't be bothered to make it match 100% (it's really close though!) and I cut off part of the background of the Klonoa pic so Olimar would still be visible for scale, but look how much bigger he is compared to the other characters.  One could argue that he's jumping towards the screen, but there are too many things that don't seem right. 

Though, since Rayman has been confirmed as a trophy, I think it's highly likely that we'll at least get Klonoa as one too.

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Re: Help us show Nintendo that Klonoa in SSB4 would fit perfectly
« Reply #53 on: August 07, 2014, 05:41:53 am »
...I'm not sure if this should count for anything, and do pardom me if t's been said already, but that Klonoa pic was seemingly intended for him to be standing in that foreground, not the stage itself. Since he's obviously not standing on the stage (or the foreground, for that matter), then it can't be a gameplay pic. And I HIGHLY doubt that it's a cutscene.

And...Rayman being a trophy doesn't say much for a character from a totally different company. It's very likely this is just a very special case-I doubt we'll get many 3rd party main characters given a non-playable role.

(Though, could you imagine the possible outrage a Cloud Strife assist trophy would cause?)

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Re: Help us show Nintendo that Klonoa in SSB4 would fit perfectly
« Reply #54 on: August 07, 2014, 06:32:51 am »
Okay, I'm going to take back what I said earlier since I tried the moveset again today and the problems with it make it unlikely that this could be that hack.  I also checked out the animations in BrawlBox and didn't see the one from the screenshot, but there were a lot that didn't show up properly.  I suppose it's worth noting that the pose is similar to one of the promotional pictures for the wiimake.  I'm going to go with YDK and say that it's shopped.  I resized the pic we have so that it lined up with this one of the FD variant of the stage that I got off the wiki:
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And that resulted in this:
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Now, I couldn't be bothered to make it match 100% (it's really close though!) and I cut off part of the background of the Klonoa pic so Olimar would still be visible for scale, but look how much bigger he is compared to the other characters.  One could argue that he's jumping towards the screen, but there are too many things that don't seem right. 

Though, since Rayman has been confirmed as a trophy, I think it's highly likely that we'll at least get Klonoa as one too.

Klonoa's Photoshop think somewhere anything you can do i can do better.  :embarassed:

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Re: Help us show Nintendo that Klonoa in SSB4 would fit perfectly
« Reply #55 on: August 07, 2014, 08:33:07 am »

Could you imagine the possible outrage a Cloud Strife assist trophy would cause?

I thought everyone HATED Cloud!

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Re: Help us show Nintendo that Klonoa in SSB4 would fit perfectly
« Reply #56 on: August 07, 2014, 05:01:12 pm »

Could you imagine the possible outrage a Cloud Strife assist trophy would cause?

I thought everyone HATED Cloud!

Well, let's be honest:Cloud Strife is the most widely-recognized Final Fantasy character. If Final Fantasy got a rep in the game, it would be Cloud. (personally? I'd prefer Gilgamesh...)

WAIT A MINUTE, HOLD THE PHONE.

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Do you notice that Quote-unquote "Klonoa's" face is facing LEFT, with the Pac-Man symbol on the RIGHT of his hat? Say hello to this:
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I know. Just like how Pac-Man, Snake and Mega man all used their old designs, it's possible Klonoa might use his first design!

Just food for thought.

I can't believe I haven't noticed this sooner, but...take a look at Rupurudu!'s avatar:



The Pac-man on that art is on the correct side (albeit the Pac-man is still backwards...). This means one of 3 things:

1:it's hinting at Klonoa using his Zipper shirt.

2:the gif is from a Carameldansen animation, so one of Klonoa's taunts would be Caramelldansen.

or 3:
RUPURUDU!
Bans the competition!

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Re: Help us show Nintendo that Klonoa in SSB4 would fit perfectly
« Reply #57 on: August 07, 2014, 05:42:21 pm »
The Pac-man on that art is on the correct side (albeit the Pac-man is still backwards...). This means one of 3 things:

1:it's hinting at Klonoa using his Zipper shirt.

2:the gif is from a Carameldansen animation, so one of Klonoa's taunts would be Caramelldansen.

or 3:
RUPURUDU!
Bans the competition!


Very funny, Sable!

But seriously, that was a fan made video. Can we take this seriously? Because this is kind of a emotional topic for me to talk about after what happened at E3, and the uncertainty and all. Besides, in the picture, you can actually make out the front edge of the hat, and you can't see the two hairs sticking out from the forehead. Not only that, but in the first picture of the video, the pac-man symbol is on the LEFT side, and then it magically appears on the RIGHT side.
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Re: Help us show Nintendo that Klonoa in SSB4 would fit perfectly
« Reply #58 on: August 07, 2014, 05:46:36 pm »
For those who want to refer to the video Sable mentioned, here you go:


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Re: Help us show Nintendo that Klonoa in SSB4 would fit perfectly
« Reply #59 on: August 12, 2014, 12:47:26 pm »
Hoo boy. today, Sakurai made a post that might not seem important to some people, but it is to us. Take a read:

Quote from: Masahiro Sakurai
Pic of the day. If you manage to raise this Special Flag for long enough, an additional KO count will be added to your score in a time match, or you'll get an extra stock for a stock match. When this appears on the stage, the fight for the flag becomes a fierce battle of tactics, which makes things pretty interesting.
-Masahiro Sakurai


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Now what does this mean? Everyone thought the special flag was going to a assist-trophy style item that would spawn Namco characters. I don't remember who said it, but someone thought Klonoa might be one of the characters spawned from the special flag. Now that the S-Flag is confirmed to do something else, and we still have that hint, this raises Klonoa's chances a bit more!

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