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Re: Anything and everything Astronomy
« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2014, 10:18:34 pm »
Oh man, I used to love astronomy when I was younger (and I still do somewhat, if you haven't guessed due to my name).

I have this really big book of large print images from the Hubble Space Telescope. I'll try to get some pictures of that.

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Re: Anything and everything Astronomy
« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2014, 10:52:07 pm »
Oh man, I used to love astronomy when I was younger (and I still do somewhat, if you haven't guessed due to my name).

I have this really big book of large print images from the Hubble Space Telescope. I'll try to get some pictures of that.

Oh I absolutely love astronomy  :) I've been stufying it for years. I don't know what it is, but something about the universe just intrigues me.

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Re: Anything and everything Astronomy
« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2014, 11:31:28 pm »
Do you think the universe will keep expanding? What will happen when it stops expanding? Or it is possible the universe is being stretched and then it will rubber band back into what it was before?

Since Binarypulsar didn't comment on this, I'd like to see if I can.

It's a very good question, exactly. It's been theorized that either of the following two could happen:

1. The Universe will simply continue to expand, and expand, and as it stretches itself thin, over trillions of years, eventually all the stars in the Universe will simply die out, and that's it.

2.Eventually, the Universe will begin to collapse in on itself in said rubberband motion commonly referred to as the "Big Crunch", an opposite of the big bang. This could either lead up to another big bang, or just...nothing.

Though, what's interesting to note is that it's been recorded that the stars and galaxies are actually distancing FASTER than they were billions of years ago. So, it's seeming like the former may be more likely.

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Re: Anything and everything Astronomy
« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2014, 11:39:25 pm »
Do you think the universe will keep expanding? What will happen when it stops expanding? Or it is possible the universe is being stretched and then it will rubber band back into what it was before?

Sorry, I didn't see this until now.
The universe has been expanding faster and faster since the Big Bang. The universe will continue to expant for eternity, until it runs out of materials for star combustion, galaxy forming, ect ect. Once it runs out of energy, our universe will be dead. If we can't find a way to a different universe by then, well humans will die out to pit it simply.

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Re: Anything and everything Astronomy
« Reply #14 on: November 29, 2014, 11:49:02 pm »
Make me wonder though.

If the universe is expanding, then what exactly is outside the universe? What is the 'space' that the universe is expanding in?


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Re: Anything and everything Astronomy
« Reply #15 on: November 30, 2014, 12:35:57 am »
Make me wonder though.

If the universe is expanding, then what exactly is outside the universe? What is the 'space' that the universe is expanding in?

No one knows. Science has come to call it the Multiverse. Think of it as the ocean. Every universe is just one little bubble, and there are millions of bubbles out there. The space in between is the vast ocean. We can't see past the Cosmic Radiation Background, so we don't know for sure if the Multiverse realky exists. But there's many theories that support it.

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Re: Anything and everything Astronomy
« Reply #16 on: November 30, 2014, 09:06:33 am »
What are you thoughts of life outside Earth? There are some other planets that have support life, like one planet roughtly 7 or 8 light years away and a super Earth roughly 42 light years away. Do you think we'll be able to go there one day?

Oh there's definitely life out there somewhere. I mean, why would we be the only ones in this massive universe? Science can't say there's no life out there, since we haven't even gone to any planet besides Mars. Like Kepler-22B, a planet about 600 light years away, is a water world that most likely has life. we just can't get there. One thing science claims, is that if life does exist, it has to have the EXACT same chemical and cellular structure as life on Earth. I don't think they get that not everything out there has to be like us. Life out there could not need food, it could not need water, heck, maybe it doesn't even need oxygen. Science just thinks because that's how we live, that that's how everything else should live. And I believe we will be able to visit close stars in the future, as cryopreservation is already possible, however for no longer than a week. If we can find a way to do it for a few years, then yeah, we'll be able to travel tons of places.
Science is not assumptions. You don't know whether there is or there isn't any intelligent, or even just complex life other than us in the universe. There is ZERO evidence that there is. Both theses seem to be equally unbelievable.

Anyways, I think that the question asked is too general. Is there life outside the Earth? Life can mean just microbial organisms, and everybody knows that those little buggers are tough mother f**kers. So in that sense there is life outside the Earth. However, as I've said before, there is zero proof that there are any complex life forms other than the ones on Earth.

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Black holes are everywhere, though many of them are so tiny, not even our best microscope can see them. Though the really big ones, known as Quasars, and found at the center of galaxies. they're what keep all the stars, dust, and gass together, and it's also why lots of galaxies have a spiral shape, as the matter is being spun around the quasar. Now worm holes are still just theories, but as science advances, they're becoming more likely to exist.
Aren't those super tiny black holes so "unstable" that their lifespan is counted in nanoseconds?

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Well, knowing how humanity is now, we'd want them to think we're the smartest thing in the universe. We'd want them to praise us, worship us, and yeah, pretty much treat us as gods. That's how lots of people are these days, they want to be better then everyone. I do believe there's parallel worlds out there, since I believe in the Multiverse theory. Think of the universe as a deck of cards. you can shuffle it lots of times, but eventually, you're gonna get the same hand. the universe is much like that. lots of things are different, but every now and then you get something the same. Now I don't think we should play god. I think we should help them so they don't ruin their planet like we did. I truly believe life more advanced then us exists. I know this sounds crazy, but i actually saw a U.F.O one time. now, think of an ant hill. now, think of people wanted to make a highway beside the anthill. the ants could want our technology, they want to know how we do this, so they can do it too. but do we care? no, we just pave right over the hill. that's like aliens and us. we're the ants, and they're the highway builders. now here's my theory. if life did advance enough to do interstellar space travel, then they obviously have treated their planet well enough to be able to sustain them that long. when they see what we're doing to our planet, they're not gonna give us their information. we would just go and ruin all the other planets too. Life definitely exists, but the chances of them visiting us are very slim.
You are not keeping this thread scientific. There is as much of a proof for multiverse theory as there is for a magic, bearded old man in the sky watching over the humanity.

Do you think the universe will keep expanding? What will happen when it stops expanding? Or it is possible the universe is being stretched and then it will rubber band back into what it was before?

Sorry, I didn't see this until now.
The universe has been expanding faster and faster since the Big Bang. The universe will continue to expant for eternity, until it runs out of materials for star combustion, galaxy forming, ect ect. Once it runs out of energy, our universe will be dead. If we can't find a way to a different universe by then, well humans will die out to pit it simply.
You don't know that either. There is a lot of different theories about what happened before the big bang, and what will happen. You put your sentences as if that particular theory was a fact which is a wrong thing to do.
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Re: Anything and everything Astronomy
« Reply #17 on: November 30, 2014, 03:25:55 pm »
What are you thoughts of life outside Earth? There are some other planets that have support life, like one planet roughtly 7 or 8 light years away and a super Earth roughly 42 light years away. Do you think we'll be able to go there one day?

Oh there's definitely life out there somewhere. I mean, why would we be the only ones in this massive universe? Science can't say there's no life out there, since we haven't even gone to any planet besides Mars. Like Kepler-22B, a planet about 600 light years away, is a water world that most likely has life. we just can't get there. One thing science claims, is that if life does exist, it has to have the EXACT same chemical and cellular structure as life on Earth. I don't think they get that not everything out there has to be like us. Life out there could not need food, it could not need water, heck, maybe it doesn't even need oxygen. Science just thinks because that's how we live, that that's how everything else should live. And I believe we will be able to visit close stars in the future, as cryopreservation is already possible, however for no longer than a week. If we can find a way to do it for a few years, then yeah, we'll be able to travel tons of places.
Science is not assumptions. You don't know whether there is or there isn't any intelligent, or even just complex life other than us in the universe. There is ZERO evidence that there is. Both theses seem to be equally unbelievable.

Anyways, I think that the question asked is too general. Is there life outside the Earth? Life can mean just microbial organisms, and everybody knows that those little buggers are tough mother f**kers. So in that sense there is life outside the Earth. However, as I've said before, there is zero proof that there are any complex life forms other than the ones on Earth.

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Black holes are everywhere, though many of them are so tiny, not even our best microscope can see them. Though the really big ones, known as Quasars, and found at the center of galaxies. they're what keep all the stars, dust, and gass together, and it's also why lots of galaxies have a spiral shape, as the matter is being spun around the quasar. Now worm holes are still just theories, but as science advances, they're becoming more likely to exist.
Aren't those super tiny black holes so "unstable" that their lifespan is counted in nanoseconds?

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Well, knowing how humanity is now, we'd want them to think we're the smartest thing in the universe. We'd want them to praise us, worship us, and yeah, pretty much treat us as gods. That's how lots of people are these days, they want to be better then everyone. I do believe there's parallel worlds out there, since I believe in the Multiverse theory. Think of the universe as a deck of cards. you can shuffle it lots of times, but eventually, you're gonna get the same hand. the universe is much like that. lots of things are different, but every now and then you get something the same. Now I don't think we should play god. I think we should help them so they don't ruin their planet like we did. I truly believe life more advanced then us exists. I know this sounds crazy, but i actually saw a U.F.O one time. now, think of an ant hill. now, think of people wanted to make a highway beside the anthill. the ants could want our technology, they want to know how we do this, so they can do it too. but do we care? no, we just pave right over the hill. that's like aliens and us. we're the ants, and they're the highway builders. now here's my theory. if life did advance enough to do interstellar space travel, then they obviously have treated their planet well enough to be able to sustain them that long. when they see what we're doing to our planet, they're not gonna give us their information. we would just go and ruin all the other planets too. Life definitely exists, but the chances of them visiting us are very slim.
You are not keeping this thread scientific. There is as much of a proof for multiverse theory as there is for a magic, bearded old man in the sky watching over the humanity.

I'm not saying they're true. I'm just trying to answer these questions the way scientists have answered mine. Science is based off many theories. Think about it, almost everything science claims about history and the earth, are just assumptions made when they found something that COULD lead to that. There are many things pointing toward there being a multiverse. Just because we can't see it doesn't mean it's not there. I've been studying astronomy for many years my friend, so I only tell of the truth I know of. It may not be the truth, but it's all I know. I'm trying my best here. I'm sorry if that's not good enough for you.

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Re: Anything and everything Astronomy
« Reply #18 on: December 01, 2014, 01:17:46 am »
Honestly I did ask for her thoughts and opinions about it. I didn't think in one shape or form that what Pulsar said was fact.


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Re: Anything and everything Astronomy
« Reply #19 on: December 01, 2014, 01:29:31 am »
Honestly I did ask for her thoughts and opinions about it. I didn't think in one shape or form that what Pulsar said was fact.

Just to let you know, that I only say what I learned from interviews, programs, documentaries, research, and many many trips to the international space museum.